I thought it might be useful to some people to summarise my impressions and opinions of these wine auctioneers.
| Feature | Gray's | Langton's |
| City Base | Sydney | Sydney and Melbourne |
| Online Site | Basic, but it works. No sales history available except for your own wins / losses. | The best! Good facilities and resources for buyers, price history etc. |
| Auction schedule(s) | Many auctions every day, some for one day only, some for longer periods. | Fortnightly Melbourne/Sydney auctions, one on at all times, now weekly. Wine Exchange open for fixed-price lots, free of commission in January each year. |
| Bidding | $5 increments, per lot bidding | $1 increments, per bottle bidding |
| Auction close-off | 10 minutes after the last bid on an item. | Promptly at scheduled time |
| Buying/Selling Charges | Buyer's commission 15%, sellers commission ???. | Buyer's commission 15%, sellers commission negotiable from 15% down. |
| Freight | Varies by location, quite expensive for 6-packs, no consolidation | $16.50/case Australia-wide |
| Pick-up allowed | No | Yes |
| Insurance | Not mentioned. | 1.5%, minimum $11 (optional, but cannot opt out online, have to ask for a refund) |
| Delivery time | Within 1 week | Varies, Exchange within 1 week, auctions can be slow. |
| Communication | Slow at times, improved with the new customer service system | Good. |
| Returns | On regular "auctions", if faulty or mis-described, 30 day guarantee. Refund of total including freight. For cheaper lots they don't even want the wine back. | Generally no, unless whole batch appears faulty or mis-described. |
| Terms of sale | Title passes on payment and delivery. | Title passes on sale at end of auction. |
| Delivered cost of one $300 lot (ACT) | $300 + $45 + $17 = $362 | $300 + $45 + $16.50 + $11 = $372.50 or $361.50 without insurance |
For those who have been or are thinking of bidding on Gray's Online wine auctions, this article may be of some interest. It documents my experiences with Gray's wine auctions over the last nearly 12 months.
| Feature | Cracka | Wickman |
| City Base | Sydney | Adelaide |
| Online Site | Has Dutch Auctions with countdown time and a fixed-price Wine Market. Nice look, but can be a bit slow and the Wine Market "Reveal next 20" presentation is not to my liking. No sale history, even for your own purchases. | Basic, but it works. No auction sales history available. |
| Auction schedule(s) | One daily, all new product, no secondary market sales. Mixed-case Mondays, cheap-and-cheerful Tuesdays. Currently 10 or less wines/mixes offered per day. | Monthly |
| Bidding |
50c increments, per bottle prices, Dutch auction, price reduces from RRP to sale price, lots often go at or near the minimum bid price, except for the occasional offering that generates some demand and competitive bidding. Fixed price Wine Market offerings are often available more cheaply elsewhere, especially after freight is added, but there are some good buys there at times. |
$1 increment pb bidding |
| Auction close-off | When all sold or minimum price reached without sale. | Promptly at scheduled time |
| Buying/Selling Charges | Buyer's commission 0%. | Buyer's commission 10%, sellers commission negotiable. |
| Freight | Auction buys fixed price per destiation, Market buys varies significantly, but can be high for 6-packs especially. | 1 Bottle $10, 1 case $15 to most of Australia if value of sale exceeds $250, otherwise a $15 surcharge. |
| Pick-up allowed | Not normally | Yes |
| Insurance | Included in freight charge. | 1.5% if value exceeds $240 |
| Delivery time | Generally very quick | Up to 21 days. |
| Communication | Good, responses by phone or email. | Good |
| Returns | Accepted if wine faulty or doesn't match description. | ??? |
| Terms of sale | ||
| Delivered cost of one $300 lot (ACT) | $300 + $14.95 = $314.95 | $300 + $30 + $15 + $4.95 = $349.95 |
| Feature | Oddbins | |
| City Base | Adelaide | |
| Online Site | Very basic, silent bid, nominate your top price and that's it. No auction sales history available. No Online payment facilities or account management. Invoice by email 2 days after auction close. | |
| Auction schedule(s) | Frequent | |
| Bidding | Varies, they suggest increments depending on anticipated cost per bottle. | |
| Auction close-off | Promptly at scheduled time. | |
| Buying/Selling Charges | Buyer's commission 15%, sellers commission ??. | |
| Freight | Fixed $13.50/carton, + mandatory insurance @ $2/$100 | |
| Pick-up allowed | Yes. | |
| Insurance | Added to freight charge. | |
| Delivery time | ||
| Communication | ? | |
| Returns | Auction terms exclude any liability for quality, mis-description etc. | |
| Terms of sale | Risk passes at close of auction, terms of sale exclude any comeback for any errors etc. | |
| Delivered cost of one $300 lot (ACT) | $300 + $45 + $13.50 + $6 = $364.50 |
If you have had dealings with other wine auction houses, I'd be happy to publish your impressions here if you send me the information covering the same factors I've used above.